1 nephi 8:1

More hints into the meaning behind this: 2 Timothy 1:7-9, 1 John 2:28. 1 Nephi 13 1 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me saying, look! If it pulls us away from Christ it is to be avoided. Seeds of Fruit: While journeying in the wilderness, Lehi dreams about a dark and dreary wilderness and a tree of life. Are there truths that explain things that we can learn from if one is careful to check for their truthfulness? . ], 12 And as I partook of the fruit thereof it filled my soul with exceedingly great joy; [exquisite love and joy] wherefore, I began to be desirous that my family should partake of it also; for I knew that it was desirable above all other fruit. I have eaten of this fruit and it is as Lehi describes. ], 10 And it came to pass that I beheld a tree, [representing Christ] whose fruit was desirable to make one happy. And much spake my father concerning this thing. 16 And it came to pass that they did come unto me and partake of the fruit also. It always stuck with me until just now you pointing out they never entered the building but just refused the fruit. 1 Nephi 8:1 — The Families Gather Seeds. 3 Nephi 8:11–12 of the rod of iron; [I have seen this in vision and one detail I noticed was that as they grabbed hold their bodies are filled with light. That is comforting to those of us still fumbling about! 1 Nephi Chapter 8 « Previous Next » Book of Mormon Annotations; Chapter 8 . He would reason and preach to his sons patiently.]. They will all come to the tree. 23 And it came to pass that there arose a mist of darkness; yea, even an exceedingly great mist of darkness, insomuch that they who had commenced in the path did lose their way, that they wandered off and were lost. I began to pray unto the Lord that he would have mercy on me, according to the multitude of his tender mercies. ( Log Out /  The Arabs, as we shall see . 26 And I also cast my eyes round about, and beheld, on the other side of the river of water, [The barrier between God and Satan.] To partake of the fruit of the Tree of Life is to receive Eternal Life and literally stand in the presence of God, which can occur in this life or the next. 1 Néphi 8 . Lehi prophesied his family would be scattered. I did not see all of Lehi’s dream. [Lehi saw a different vision than Nephi. Introduction; Witnesses; Preserve the Righteous; Hidden Records; 1 Nephi. KnoWhys KnoWhys on 1 Nephi 8 KnoWhys on 1 Nephi 9 KnoWhys on 1 Nephi 10 Recommended Resources Learn about the Book of Mormon with verse by verse commentaries from renowned Book of Mormon scholars like John W. Welch and Brant A. Gardner in the ScripturePlus app. You are here: Home » Seminary » Book of Mormon » Lessons » Week Three » 1 Nephi 8. The rod itself is the “word of God,” which is personal revelation. 7 And it came to pass that as I followed him I beheld myself that I was in a dark and dreary waste. We will read about this in 3 Nephi 11. [become sons or daughters of perdition]” These are 3rd and fourth state? and their manner of dress was exceedingly fine; and they were in the attitude of mocking and pointing their fingers towards those who had come at and were partaking of the fruit. Lehi is such an amazing man. Rachel M. Crandall says: December 9, 2018 at 5:39 pm. 3 Nephi 8:3. [A vision is often similar to a daylight dream, where you are awake yet seeing something in the Spirit.]. This is received however the Lord gives it to us, whether directly or through scripture, or another.] 1 Nephi 20 – Isaiah 48. and it stood as it were in the air, high above the earth. I remember as a kid watching the living scriptures of this dream and seeing lamen and lemuel in the great and spacious building partying it up. Gradual Infidelity, sounds to me like a process of slowly or gradually participating of something forbidden, or desiring that which is not of the light, Godliness “No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Any idea why the rod is made of iron? PR], When you say that “no person, once having grabbed hold of the rod fails to come to the tree” – does this mean that everyone will begin to taste of the gift of charity after having grabbed the rod (received the Holy Ghost) or do you mean that everyone who has received the Holy Ghost (entered their 3rd estate) will ultimately make their way to Christ – either in this life or the next??? 1 Nephi 9-10. Without the date, one of the few foodstuffs that do not perish in the heat of the desert, those making long desert journeys would have little to eat. Il a fait l’objet de chants, de peintures et d’une multitude de discussions sur l’Évangile. The key is to ask and discover the meaning to the dream.]. 1 Nephi 18. Vérifiez que vous possédez : Une connexion Internet (des frais de fournisseur de services Internet peuvent s’appliquer). I can’t even fathom imagining losing one of my children spiritually forever. 34 These are the words of my father: For as many as heeded them, [Kingdom of Darkness] had fallen away. Does the path begin exactly where the rod of iron begins or is there a bit of a path leading up to the rod of iron (symbolically and literally)? Was there anything about it’s visual portrayal that held symbolism? Cummings, David B. [the world]. This is not how this should be interpreted. Reading Nephi – 8:1-8. by James Olsen • December 2, 2015 • 3 Comments. The seeds of the fruit will become a part of you and make room for you to plant your own tree in the Garden of Heaven as you prepare to make way for your own posterity. Without the camel, travel across the desert would have been impossible. That would have required camel drivers and probably an armed escort made up of Lehi and Ishmael’s servants. 1 Nephi 12. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. If the tree is Jesus, and the fruit is eternal life, then we are not talking about a 2nd comforter experience here, are we? 1 Nephi 22 I was told that hope is not lost for Laman and Lemuel. I too have had dreams that make me deeply question the future and my relationships, that do not simply manifest but engender worry and joy. [The children of the Everlasting Covenant are given many opportunities to come unto Christ. ], 24 And it came to pass that I beheld others pressing forward, and they came forth and caught hold of the end [Always start at the end, not the middle.] Ye cannot serve God and mammon.”, When reading this part of the vision we assume that it was a simple glance to the spacious building, an embarrassed feeling, and then to throw it all away to follow Satan. 1 Nephi 17. It seemed to be a dark grey and palm width, but I don’t remember how it was fastened to the ground or not. 1 Nephi 10:8 - 1 Nephi 10:22 _____ 1 Nephi 10:8 Yea, even he should go forth and cry in the wilderness: Prepare ye the way of the Lord, and make his paths straight; for there standeth one among you whom ye know not; and he is mightier than I, whose shoe’s latchet I am not worthy to unloose. 1 Y aconteció que habíamos recogido toda suerte de semillas de toda especie, tanto de granos de … 1 And all these things did my father see, and hear, and speak, as he dwelt in a tent, in the valley of Lemuel, [For many, the most sacred places for receiving revelation is our own homes. Often, we are allowed to be deceived that we may know the good from the evil.] Man in white robe? PR], [The fruit itself plays an important role in the Everlasting Covenant.] S Silver says: December 10, 2018 at 2:13 am. 1 (2007): 56–63, 86. I too have had dreams that make me deeply question the future and my relationships, that do not simply manifest but engender worry and joy. 36 And it came to pass after my father had spoken all the words of his dream or vision, which were many, he said unto us, because of these things which he saw in a vision, he exceedingly feared for Laman and Lemuel; yea, he feared lest they should be cast off from the presence of the Lord. We can be sure that they did not go out into the wilderness to find their seeds, because the seeds he describes are all of domestic plants—the kind that one would find on a well-stocked landed estate. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Reading Nephi – 8:1-8. by James Olsen • December 2, 2015 • 3 Comments. This is often the pattern for those seeking divine guidance. If they did not, this may be evidence of other times when the boys left camp. 17 And it came to pass that I was desirous that Laman and Lemuel should come and partake of the fruit also; wherefore, I cast mine eyes towards the head of the river, that perhaps I might see them. The seeds, tents, and people all suggest we are seeing a large and well equipped caravan. [Many religions have elements of truth. The Spirit of God continued to burn in his soul that entire time. And I said I behold many nations and kingdoms. How would you live your life differently if you knew in 600 years there would be the Second Coming? Does it look like cast iron or is it polished and smooth? 22 And it came to pass that they did come forth, and commence in the path which led to the tree. Comparer, sur l'entrée de Christ dans les cieux comme véritable souverain Sacrificateur , Hébreux 1.3 ; 4.14 , note ; Hébreux 9.24 ; 10.19 , etc. “Pressing forward” are those who are seeking truth. If Nephi is influenced by the Wisdom tradition, then reading 1 Nephi 1:2–3 15 — indeed reading all of Nephi’s writings — through the lens of ancient Near Eastern Wisdom literature may open the records [Page 284] of the Book of Mormon in new and fruitful ways. [The fruit itself plays an important role in the Everlasting Covenant.]. Are there words of comfort you can offer to parents whose children don’t choose Christ? 1 Nephi 21. 1 Nephi 16. In this way everyone who grabs hold of the iron rod (and lights up) begins to be “filled with this love, which he hath bestowed upon all who are true followers of his Son” (Moroni 7:48). [No person, once having grabbed hold of the rod fails to come to the tree.]. 38 And after he had preached unto them, and also prophesied [spoke by the Spirit of God] unto them of many things, he bade them to keep the commandments of the Lord; and he did cease speaking unto them. ]”, and then: “and they did press their way forward, continually holding fast to the rod of iron, until they came forth and fell down [at the feet of Christ] and partook of the fruit of the tree.” (which fruit… is eternal life). The field is leading to the purpose of the vision. 1 Né 8:2 Le rêve de Léhi. In the later chapter Nephi tells us that the rod of iron is the word of God. I have great fondness for this visionary man. [Various religions of the world. I don’t think there are that many people reaching the tree (Jesus and a 2nd comforter experience) let alone who then fall away to the world. What are these activities in real life that people engage in? I like this additional insight in verse 30: (at the feet of Christ) …they did press their way forward, continually holding fast to the rod of iron, until they came forth and fell down (Second Comforter) [at the feet of Christ] and partook of the fruit of the tree. ], 8 And after I had traveled for the space of many hours in darkness, [Lehi’s vision was leading nowhere, as he struggled to see. Change ). I’m praying to get where I can feel the fruit, taste the flavor of it, but it is beautiful. I’ve noticed an increased interest in things like “chakras”, meditation, yoga, and the like that are associated with other religions. From what you’ve explained before these are they that make these covenants before condescending, to become sons or daughters of perdition. Peu de thèmes du Livre de Mormon ont suscité autant d'attention que le rêve de Léhi. 1 Nephi 8:1 1 And it came to pass that we had gathered together all manner of seeds of every kind, both of grain of every kind, and also of the seeds of fruit of every kind. 10,756 Téléchargements. Often what we see is determined by the questions we ask. It reminds me of the flavor of a sweet nashi with the texture of soft pineapple, wrapped in a white husk. and they did press forward through the mist of darkness, clinging to the rod of iron, even until they did come forth and partake of the fruit of the tree. Lehi’s dream. Home; Blog; Primary; Relief Society; Seminary ; Sunday School; Join; Red Brick Store; Sign in. Such things occur slowly over time and result in act of complete rejection of their vows. [Eternal Life], 11 And it came to pass that I did go forth and partake of the fruit thereof; and I beheld that it was most sweet, above all that I ever before tasted. [The fruit is Eternal Life, which is given to those who receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, but not fully realized until they ascend to the Third Heaven. 1 Nephi 4. 5 And it came to pass that I saw a man, and he was dressed in a white robe; and he came and stood before me. Nephi records this dream and Lehi's ensuing concern for his children in 1 Nephi 8, beginning with verse 2. ], 2 And it came to pass that while my father tarried in the wilderness he spake unto us, saying: Behold, I have dreamed a dream; or, in other words, I have seen a vision. “21 And I saw numberless concourses of people, many of whom were pressing forward, that they might obtain the path [Those who seek the path will find it.]”. How long from the vision until Lehi reached his bed at his house, I wonder? He began to feel the need for God’s help. 1 And it came to pass that we had gathered together all manner of seeds of every kind, both of grain of every kind, and also of the seeds of fruit of every kind. 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